Ep. 65: We Know How Television Works

Ep. 65: We Know How Television Works

Episode 65, ‘We know how television works’, on cliffhangers

This week, Dave and Steve return with an episode dedicated to cliffhangers throughout cinema, television, and literature. In doing so, they also take a bit of a journey through a wide range of past episodes of The Style Guide. Perhaps fittingly, because our intrepid hosts are going to go on a hiatus for a while and leave what happens next a cliffhanger of their own. Don’t worry, constant listeners. Dave and Steve will be back soon enough, bringing their usual charm and style to your eagerly awaiting ears — although maybe it won’t all be quite so stylish… Cue the suspenseful music.

  • Intro Clip: Batman, Marsha, Queen of Diamonds 01×57.
  • Dave’s eclectic music taste strikes again.
  • Steve and Dave define cliffhangers without once referencing Thomas Hardy’s A Pair of Blue Eyes nor The Perils of Pauline. Amateurs.
  • We get it. You guys love Back to the Future.
  • This episode has more spoilers than your average outing from The Style Guide.
  • For no particular reason, here’s a Buzzfeed article on why telenovelas are better than soap operas.
  • Is the Harry Potter series so fundmental that you don’t even need to use the title when talking about them? Is saying “Book Four” without any context really sufficient for people to understand what you’re ranting about, Steve? People might have thought you were talking about The Silver Chair or Breaking Dawn.
  • Yes, The Silver Chair is the fourth book in the Narnia series. We here at The Style Guide will not abide chronological-order-truthers.
  • Steve misremembers Battlestar Galactica.
  • In a shocking development, Steve admits to a lack of knowledge about something. Dave enlightens him.
  • Steve has something in common with former Texas Governor Rick Perry.
  • Dave and Steve conveniently forget about the existence of Angel season six.
  • Darth Vader = Selma Bouvier.
  • Because Steve’s so on fleek, he talks about Jay Leno.
  • Theo is intensely disappointed in Steve.
  • Maybe “The Best of Both Worlds” wasn’t Steve’s earliest cliffhanger memory because he was only three years old when it aired.
  • Supermans? Supermen?
  • Steve writes off the entire rom-com genre.
  • Clearly Dave and Steve need to rewatch the original Star Wars trilogy. Episode 66, anyone?
  • Superbad for vampires” seems like the saddest possible conclusion to Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg’s careers where they try desperately to relive the glory days by putting a supernatural twist on their old films.
  • Suprebad, on the other hand, as a retelling of Superbad but with white supremacists seems like an awesome idea.
  • It sounds like Dave and Steve have an important lesson to learn for the future of The Style Guide from the last fifteen minutes of this episode…
Ep. 64: Furious Kane

Ep. 64: Furious Kane

Episode 64, ‘Furious Kane’, on Citizen Kane vs. Furious 7

This week, Dave and Steve invite special guest Dominik Buconjic to join them for a discussion about the alpha and the omega of cinema, Citizen Kane and Furious 7. You would think that these two films cannot be compared. You might be right, but your hosts do their darnedest to make it work. Do they succeed? You be the judge.

  • Intro Clip: Furious 7.
  • There can never be enough apologies for the intro to this episode.
  • Special guest Dom (as opposed to Vin Diesel Dom) has to put up with a lot of nonsense from Dave and Steve this week.
  • Dave and Steve are proud of doing the minimum level of homework required for episode — unlike some other weeks.
  • Steve knows the tagline for The Fast and The Furious: Tokyo Drift which, disappointingly, isn’t said by a single character.
  • Dave is a god damn liar.
  • Is The Style Guide an escape from politics for you? “Too bad”, says Dave.
  • Dom doesn’t like Dom, but does Dom like Dom?
  • Dom and Steve revel in their rightness and Dave’s wrongness.
  • Dave asks Steve to read his mind. In response, Steve reads from paper.
  • Dave makes a profound point about Furious 7 and also sings about butts.
  • With apologies to Tracy Chapman, Christopher Lee, and The Smashing Pumpkins…
  • Steve is a little bit mean to himself. Dave suggests he wasn’t mean enough.
  • Dave thinks Daniel Day Lewis was fantastic when he played Brad Pitt playing Jesse James in The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford.
  • Dave has trouble being quiet while the adults are talking.
  • Dave and Dom thinks “rosebud” is less Fight Club or The Sixth Sense and more Titanic.
  • It was a sled, Steve, not a sleigh.
  • Dave and Steve disagree about the whole point of rosebud.
  • It is very strange to have a thoughtful debate about the meaning of Citizen Kane side by side with a conversation about butts and explosions.
  • Dungeons & Dragons & Drivetrains.
  • Dom and Dave have a discussion about the intricate subtleties of Vin Diesel’s line delivery.
  • Dom drops some spoilers for F8 of the Furious,
  • Eventually your hosts devolve into bros.
  • Dom describes his time on The Style Guide as “surprisingly not a waste of time”. Thanks Dom!
Ep. 63: Wesley Snipes is No Al Pacino

Ep. 63: Wesley Snipes is No Al Pacino

Episode 63, ‘Wesley Snipes is no Al Pacino’, on Wesley Snipes

You’re telling me that this week Dave and Steve did an actor profile on Wesley Snipes? Like, the dude from the Blade movies, Demolition Man, and a bunch of direct-to-DVD flops who has recently spent three years in prison for income tax fraud? Is there any rhyme or reason to who The Style Guide will profile or have you just thrown every actor’s name into a random number generator? I don’t even know who you guys are anymore.

  • Intro Clip: Demolition Man.
  • The lie that emerged at the end of episode 61 continues.
  • Okay, so I can believe Blade is a Marvel superhero, but how did he get his motorcycle here?
  • “Super eclectic”? Looks like someone’s been hitting the thesaurus pretty hard.
  • Now that Dave and Steve mention it, the sheer number of vampires in the Blade universe does seem improbably high. Thanks a lot for ruining those films for the audience, guys. Now nobody will be able to take them seriously anymore.
  • The tone of this episode consistently lapses into that of two outcasts sitting on the edge of the playground talking about how cool the cool kids are.
  • As usual, Steve comes across as Steve Buscemi’s character from 30 Rock.
  • The definition for biannually isn’t very helpful…
  • Is White Men Can’t Jump a modern day Vaudeville show that is grounded by a common theme of toxic masculinity rather than the plot of a more traditional 90s-era basketball film? The answer might surprise you. (No, no it is not.)
  • Dave talks about his manly urges.
  • Does Steve make a very (very) subtle dig at the inadequacy of Snapple as a thirst quenching beverage?
  • Dave is terrified by nudity whereas Steve just blocks it out.
  • Steve worries that Dave is going to make fun of him.
  • Boyz N the Hood and New Jack City: sibling projects or kissing cousins?
  • Steve sure sounds like he’s overcompensating for something with how much he loves Blade and Blade.
  • Blade receives a 6/10 for profanity use according to the IMDb parental guide. Six out of ten. Six. Out. Of. Ten.
  • Dave hates the future.
  • Summer Glau > Wesley Snipes > Scarlett Johansson > Matt Damon.
Ep. 62: They’re Not Acting, They’re Talking

Ep. 62: They’re Not Acting, They’re Talking

Episode 62, ‘They’re not acting, they’re talking’, on Aaron Sorkin

This week, Dave and Steve depart from what has become their standard fare of making people angry by having opinions being wrong about Disney, and delve into a topic that is never even remotely contentious: politics. That’s right, Aaron Sorkin is getting The Style Guide treatment. It’s kind of like that time he gave Walter Isaacson’s Steve Jobs the Sorkin treatment, but with 80% less Michael Fassbender. You can’t tell because it’s just audio, but Dave and Steve are walking and talking in the hallways of the West Wing for the entirety of this episode.

  • Intro Clip: A Few Good Men.
  • Dave and Steve ended last week on a lie that is only now being realized as such. The Editor feels just as betrayed as you all do.
  • Steve is super enthusiastic to start the episode off and it is okay to admit that it makes you rather uncomfortable.
  • Dave assumes that the audience remains excited for The Style Guide, even after he and Steve trampled all over people’s childhoods with the series on Disney.
  • This episode brought to you in part by the Aaron Sorkin – Masterclass… and viewers like you.
  • Wikipedia disagrees with Dave (but only until he reads the shownotes and edits it).
  • Maybe Steve just has no idea how to pronounce anyone’s names.
  • Yes, Dave. The West Wing became a much more “grammatic” show.
  • Josh doesn’t quit, you guys. He’s on a leave of absence from his White House duties, similar to the leave Annabeth Schott goes on in Season 6. And Sam doesn’t go to Mandyville, because he shows up at the end of Season 7 and the show firmly establishes that he went back to practicing law. Amateurs.
  • You, constant listeners, will never have to hear Steve’s ill-advised tangent about the dangers of cocaine, because the Editor has saved you from it. You’re welcome.
  • Steve shows that he clearly isn’t a real Firefly fan.
  • “Just” an assistant, Dave?
  • The baby has a name, you two. He’s more than just his age.
  • A cricket bat isn’t a theme, Steve.
  • Someone mentions Aristotle in this episode and we are all shocked to discover that it isn’t Steve.
  • To end the episode, Dave and Steve wander into dangerous territory.
  • Heh. “Sexytimes”.
Ep. 61: Treat You Like Pixar

Ep. 61: Treat You Like Pixar

Episode 61, ‘Treat you like Pixar’, Part III on Walt Disney Animation Studios

This week, Dave and Steve finish cataloguing their thoughts on Walt Disney Animation Studios, chatting about the rest of the films from The Little Mermaid to Moana. For some, this is a somber episode as The Style Guide moves on from a long list of well loved and important films from childhood. For others, we received your hatemail, and we read you loud and clear: no more saying anything bad about your childhood. We get it, Nicole, but you didn’t have to send us death threats. Geeze. They’re only films.

  • Intro Clip: Zooptopia.
  • Dave changes the intro and we are all worse for it. Steve acts like nothing has happened.
  • Steve makes it clear that he is incapable of experiencing joy.
  • It becomes evident that Steve has not seen Moana yet.
  • LeFou, Dave. His name is LeFou.
  • How white is Steve? This white.
  • Dave should make explosion noises more often.
  • Dave and Steve treat us all to one of the dumbest conversations one could possibly have about The Little Mermaid.
  • Sounds like Steve needs to Journey to a New World (but not a whole new world)
  • Steve has no idea how cars work, despite knowing how Cars works.
  • Dave can’t tell the difference between a Disney film and a Pixar film, but that’s his fault, not theirs.
  • Hi Steve’s mom.
  • Steve’s deadpan sense of humour earns him no friends.
  • Steve mistakes Donny Osmond for a celebrity.
  • Wes, we’re waiting on you…
  • Dave talks, at length, about the supple, sensual feeling of VHS cases.
  • Dave slanders Mulan‘s good name.
  • Steve’s love of Hannah Montana causes him to say some weird things.
  • Steve flaunts Dave’s child privilege.
  • Steve references a completely fictional ukulele album.
Ep. 60: Renaissance Kids

Ep. 60: Renaissance Kids

Episode 60, ‘Renaissance kids’, Part II on Walt Disney Animation Studios

This week, Dave and Steve continue their journey through the feature films of Walt Disney Animation Studios. With proper microphones and a whole new batch of films to talk about, the dynamic duo start to work their way through the next set of Disney films, starting with Cinderella and ending with Oliver and Company. If you don’t remember some of those films, don’t worry about it. As it turns out, Dave and Steve forgotten more about this era of Disney films than anyone ever needed to know in the first place.

  • Intro Clip: Oliver and Company.
  • Dave refuses to make meaningful enhancements to his life because he fears change.
  • Steve and Dave figure out what “Silver Era” means — allowing Steve to make a bad pun about the ages of technological development towards urban civilization.
  • Dave owns Cinderalla.
  • Just to clarify, Dave appears to be talking about the person, not the film. She belongs to him. Which is weird for us all.
  • Wiktionary has Dave’s back.
  • Are talking animals not whimsical enough for you, Steve?
  • Dave and Steve celebrate illiteracy.
  • Steve does his best not to say “Rudyard”.
  • Dave gets text message and stops the entire podcast to deal with it.
  • So that’s why it’s called “the Golden Age”.
  • Did Dave just suggest that Disney is better than Shakespeare?
  • Hi, friend of the show, Missie Peters!
  • At this point, it’s pretty clear that the Editor is just messing around.
  • In case you had forgotten how racist Disney could be, here’s a reminder.
  • Steve pretends to know when mermaids made their first film debut, because he wants the cool kids to like him.
  • Steve sounds like he’s having an existential crisis regarding The Lady and the Tramp.
  • Steve dun messed up his Disney villain knowledge.
  • Dave’s veganism can be traced back directly to a nightmare he had in 1986.
  • Did Dave just refer to the “real” Merlin?
  • It sounds a lot like Steve didn’t bother preparing for this episode at all.
  • Of course Steve was a Boy Scout. It all makes sense now.
  • Calling Bambi a scary movie is stretching it a bit, guys.
  • Dave wonders how people expressed opinions prior to the Internet.
  • Dave makes up his own ending to The Fox and the Hound.
  • The Disney Bronze Era is really just the plot of the movie Inception.
Ep. 59: Books Are Great. Moving Books Are Even Better.

Ep. 59: Books Are Great. Moving Books Are Even Better.

Episode 59, ‘Books are great. Moving books are even better.’, Part I on Walt Disney Animation Studios

After last week’s debacle with what is most certainly their least listened to episode, Dave and Steve return to reasonable episode lengths. That’s right. They are not insisting that you dedicate a significant portion of your life to listening to the podcast. Instead they begin their series on Disney’s animated films. Eventually they’ll work their way to the latest efforts like Moana, but for now they discuss Walt Disney himself, DisneyLand, and the Golden Age of Disney (from Snow White to Bambi).

  • Intro Clip: Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.
  • If you think Steve’s audio sounds like it was recorded from inside the belly off a whale, you’d be right.
  • Remember that time Dave and Steve did three hours on the difference between robots, cyborgs, and AI? They don’t.
  • Dave is briefly concerned with proper etiquette.
  • Steve and Dave appear to be on a first name basis with Mr. Disney.
  • Dave sounds a lot like he wants to be an Imagineer.
  • Dave and Steve liked Disney before it was mainstream.
  • Snow White is such a blatant ripoff of Inside Out.
  • Steve accuses Disney of trying to manipulate children into being responsible.
  • Everyone calls them “animatronics”, Dave.
  • Dave flaunts his having-gone-to-Disneyland privilege.
  • This podcast seems to represent the entirety of Steve’s knowledge of Disneyland. Las Vegas too, but that’s not related to this episode whatsoever.
  • Dave is the only person on the planet who didn’t like Captain America: Civil War.
  • Disney films are just a vehicle for ketchup.
  • No, guys, Maleficent is not the Evil Queen of Snow White. This ain’t Amateur Night at the Apollo. Get your act together.
  • Dave and Steve pretend to be talking fawns.
  • Dave is scared by fruits.
  • Steve misses the scary Disney movies of yore.
  • Is anyone else bothered by the way that Dave and Steve pronounce “dwarfs” as “dwarves”?
Ep. 58: The Sounds of Matt Damon

Ep. 58: The Sounds of Matt Damon

Episode 58, ‘The sounds of Matt Damon’, on The Martian

This week, Dave and Steve take on the latest “it’s time to rescue Matt Damon” movie (unless you count Jason Bourne as Matt Damon saving himself from the decisions of past-Matt Damon), The Martian. But instead of giving you the usual fare of The Style Guide, they’ve decided to try and record a commentary track for the film. So enjoy two hours and twenty minutes continuous of Dave and Steve working their way through Matt Damon’s fourth greatest movie. Good luck trying to sync up your copies of the film with theirs.

Also: please don’t sue us 20th Century Fox. Or ABBA.

  • Intro Clip: The Martian Promotional Material.
  • Dave and Steve decide to do an episode with absolutely no regard for how difficult it will be for The Editor to deal with. Thanks guys.
  • Steve says Dave is going to say something and then Steve says it.
  • Steve assumes that you need a PhD to go into space. This is probably because he’s grasping at reasons why NASA would accept him into their space program.
  • Dave doesn’t think very highly of Computer Science degrees.
  • To protect Dave’s ego, Steve politely suggests that he is not sure about a fact that he seems awfully sure abou.
  • Steve says “less” when he means “fewer”.
  • We all heard you say “NASHA”, Steve.
  • Steve says “Yeah” a lot. A lot, a lot.
  • Technically, Mark Watney is both emancipated and emaciated.
  • Hey look, swearing!
  • Cast Away would have been a very different movie if Tom Hanks had a beach ball instead of a volley ball.
  • Dave, as someone who once lived near a potato garden, speaks for all botanists.
  • Things that would have been cut from a normal episode, but can’t because of the nature of a commentary episode: an extended discussion of astronaut poop.
  • Steve, you guys did an entire episode on Julia Roberts. AN ENTIRE EPISODE. You shouldn’t be confusing her with Sandra Bullock anymore.
  • It sure sounds like Steve thinks he could do as good a job surviving on Mars as Matt Damon.
  • Chiwetel Ejiofor.
  • Dave doesn’t believe in butterflys.
  • Happy Days ran from 1974 to 1984 and disco music “achieved popularity during the mid-1970s to the early 1980s”. Citation.
  • This episode really gives you a sense of how much Dave loves “Stayin’ Alive” by the Bee Gees..
  • The next commentary episode is going to be about American Sniper. Just kidding. There is never going to be another commentary episode. Never ever.
  • Nobody will ever mistake Dave and Steve for scientists.
  • No, Steve. A political scientist doesn’t count.
  • Is anyone else uncomfortable every time Steve talks about “government porn”?
  • Dave shuts off his microphone and forces Steve to stumble awkwardly through talking to himself. In the background, you can hear Dave getting a soda.
  • “Vincent Parkour” and “Mindy Parker”.
  • Steve compliments himself.
  • Steve discovers how deep Dave’s love for him is.
  • Dave discovers how shallow Steve’s love for him is.
  • Steve talks some nonsense about sols. It sounds right, but is super wrong. Unfortunately for him, Dave believes him and thus there is an extended discussion about it.
  • Dave almost says that David Bowie and Ziggy Stardust are two different artists — which is confusing for a bunch of reasons.
  • At an hour and a half, Dave and Steve desperately need to find a second wind. It turns out doing film commentary is exhausting.
  • Dave and Steve cheat for a bit and let ABBA briefly take over commentary duties.
  • Unlike when Steve was talking about sols, he is not a total liar when he talks about Jupiter.
  • Dave does something that makes the last twenty minutes of the podcast very difficult to edit…
  • Thanks to Dave, Steve’s probably now on a government list somewhere.
Ep. 57: Three Twists In A Row

Ep. 57: Three Twists In A Row

Episode 57, ‘Three twists in a row’, on The Prestige Vs. The Illusionist

This week, after a brief holiday, Dave and Steve do yet another installment of their popular “Versus” series (see episode 21’s Jessica Jones vs. Daredevil), pitting The Prestige against The Illusionist and asking themselves “Which film is the better exploration of magic as a theatrical art?”. Well, given that we know which of the hosts is a magician and which learns one quarter of a trick before he “gives up, but could do it if he wanted to”, we can assume that Dave asks the question, but at least they both answer.

  • Intro Clip: The Illusionist.
  • The only note that Dave and Steve appear to have left for The Editor this week was “Edward Norton is a boss”. Which, as true as that may be guys, isn’t the most helpful piece of guidance to offer the person who has to turn your words into something coherent.
  • Regrets? Steve has a few.
  • As he does with fatherhood, Dave flaunts his magicianhood.
  • Steve spoils the end of the podcast.
  • Edward Norton has always been “pretty hot”, Dave.
  • Dave talks about something called a “video store”.
  • Dave makes up a film called “The Ice Princess” and Steve goes along with it.
  • Is a “mind blower” a leaf blower for brains?
  • Steve defends M. Night Shyamalan, forcing The Editor to learn how to spell his name.
  • Dave and Steve do a great job listening to each other.
  • This episode brought to you in part by Dr. Pepper. The 23rd ingredient is lies.
  • Dave’s least favorite magic movie is Braveheart.
  • Dave has the gall to call Steve “a layman”.
  • Steve has the gall to call himself “a layperson”.
  • Hey Steve, the shownotes aren’t your personal monkey. You can’t just tell us to do something and count on it being done. Google it yourself, you slacker.
  • On a completely unrelated note: here’s a tweet by Neil deGrasse Tyson.
  • Dave speaks, at length, on behalf of slighted magicians.
  • Are there any films where Paul Giamatti is not a delight?
  • Dave spoils magic for everyone.
  • Steve gives Christopher Nolan an awful lot of credit. Dave sits there quietly.
  • This episode would have been vastly improved by more of Dave doing his Michael Caine impression.
Ep. 56: Children of the Prequels

Ep. 56: Children of the Prequels

Episode 56, ‘Children of the Prequels’, on Rogue One

Let’s just admit it. The Style Guide exists solely as an excuse for Dave and Steve to talk about Star Wars, and all the episodes in between them are just filler while they wait for the next opportunity to talk about Star Wars — and that opportunity is finally here. Because there hasn’t been enough ink spilled on discussions of Rogue One, Dave and Steve are taking a crack at it. You’ll laugh. You’ll cry. You’ll be disappointed that people treat Hulk Crit Film as gospel. Follow along because this week is a rebellion, and Dave and Steve rebel.

  • Intro Clip: Rogue One.
  • Dave and Steve appear to make a really subtle Beetlejuice reference.
  • Dave’s five dollar word for the episode is “iconoclastic”. Stay tuned for his definition.
  • While it might seem like Dave and Steve are directly attacking the same Hot Takes as the subjects of this piece, they’re probably focused on the absurdity of this.
  • Steve defends the prequels.
  • Is anyone concerned at how subdued Steve sounds throughout the episode? For someone who claims to love Star Wars, his tone seems more suited to YouTube reviews of the eleventh season of Murder, She Wrote rather than the latest installment of his childhood.
  • Eight minutes in, Dave asks permission to start the podcast.
  • Forest Whitaker would make a great ghostbuster.
  • It turns out that Dave accidentally saw Othello instead of Rogue One.
  • CSIS probably isn’t listening to the podcast, Steve.
  • The timeless Matrix Reloaded makes an appearance.
  • It isn’t really related to the epsiode, but this scene is most excellent. And you believe Keanu Reeves is somehow this man’s equal, Steve?
  • “Mads Mikkelsen and Ben Mendelsohn” is almost a tongue twister.
  • Steve tries to emphsize the “Saw” part of “Saw Gerrera” so that Dave will stop calling him “Saul”. Also, Steve calls him “Saw Gerrero” multiple times.
  • At some point, someone is going to call on The Style Guide to script doctor a Star Wars film and boy are Dave and Steve ready.
  • Dave doesn’t know that Leia’s ship in Star Wars is a CR90 Corvette, the Tantive IV. Amateur.
  • I think we all know who the real racist is, Steve.
  • Steve’s big insight in this episode is that a stand-alone Star Wars story might stand alone.
  • Is Dave suggesting that Inglourious Basterds is a Vietnam movie?
  • Steve compliments Dave and he brushes it off like its no big deal.
  • Steve yada-yadas over the best part.
  • Dave references that little known Billy Idol song “Rebel Missile”.
  • “When Vader invaded.”
  • Steve blames Disney for ruining his childhood, but without Disney, you wouldn’t have even had a childhood, Steve.
  • We get it, Dave. You hate Looper and Ant-Man.